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November 8, 2017 Monthly Meeting Minutes

TOWN BOARD MEETING – TOWN OF WINTER – N4680 CTY RD W – WINTER, WI
NOVEMBER 8, 2017

Chairman David Kinsley called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm, present
were board members Ronald Barnaby and Terry Patenaude, Clerk –
Treasurer Lori Van Winkle and 2 audience members.  The Pledge of
Allegiance was recited and Chairman Kinsley welcomed everyone.

Meeting agenda approved by Patenaude/Barnaby, motion carried.  Meeting
minutes from October 6, 2017 Special Meeting and October 11, 2017
Regular meeting approved by Barnaby/Patenaude, motion carried.

License/Zoning:  There were none to discuss.

Highway/Road Report:  Chairman Kinsley stated the season is winding
down, there is 1 culvert replacement to be done yet, they will be
finished with gravel hauling, they are getting plow trucks set up,
mower head will be installed on tractor, tires were installed on one
of the trucks and they will be hauling in some salt/sand next week. 
Patenaude stated the crack sealing looked good and he will be looking
ahead for next year.  Also noted that Fahrner will be in the area to
inspect other bridges on Nov. 13th if anyone wants to meet with Brad
to inspect our bridges.  Chairman Kinsley agreed to have them take a
look at things and get an opinion from them.  Barnaby attended a
meeting regarding the TRIP program and will be attending the 2nd
meeting on December 8th which he states at that time we will need to
have the TRIP application completed to turn in.  Barnaby reported that
we are 4th in line, with 3 towns ahead of us in this TRIP cycle, but
we should still apply now in the event one of the others do not. 
Barnaby mentioned that we will need to hire an engineer to perform an
inspection on our road to be sure it meets all the requirements and
the longevity will be at least 10 years, Barnaby stated we will need
to work on the application as soon as possible.

Unfinished Business:   There was none.

New Business:  Regarding changing the time of our regular monthly
meetings during the cold weather months;  all board members were in
favor of this, it was decided to change the meeting times to 4:00 pm
for the next three or four months.

The 2018 Employee Labor agreement was presented for approval; the new
labor agreement was reviewed, everything has been updated as agreed
upon at the negotiations meeting, it just requires our signatures. 
The labor agreement was approved by Patenaude/Barnaby, motion
carried.

Correspondence/Contacts:  The board reviewed the list of new land use
and driveway permits; there were no questions or concerns.   Mike and
Tammy Unrein requested they be on our Town Agenda so they could
present a situation that has occurred with their property and what
they have done the past 20 years to correct it and to request a refund
of their taxes paid over this time period.  Tammy provided several
pages of information in advance for the board to review.   A lengthy
discussion and review of maps and other documents took place between
the board and the Unreins.  Basically they state the property they
purchased 20 years ago did not exist as they thought due to an error
the surveyor made using the wrong markers.  To make this property
buildable they purchased additional property next to it hired the same
surveyor to survey this location to find out later the second survey
was also done incorrectly.  Chairman Kinsley asked if these surveys
were done on the properties prior to them purchasing the properties,
Tammy replied yes on both properties.  Supervisor Barnaby stated that
their title insurance should have provided facts related to the
property; Tammy and Mike both stated that they did not buy title
insurance when they purchased the property.  
Patenaude stated what it comes down to is the survey and surveyor,
that is who you should be going after; all other decisions were made
based upon that survey.  Tammy stated the surveyor is out of business
now and what it comes down to is that the County owes them a refund of
their tax money for a property that does not exist, not the surveyor. 
All board members were in agreement that the problem originated with
the surveyor and the errors in his survey and that is where the
Unreins should be looking for resolve.   Chairman Kinsley asked Lori
to explain what we have investigated regarding this situation…Lori
explained  that we looked at Illegal and Unlawful taxes and how the
statutes defines them;  if there were a palpable error made by the
assessor,  then it would be considered  illegal or unlawful.  In this
case the assessor used a CERTIFIED survey to determine the values
therefore this is not a palpable error, it was not the assessors’
error.  Lori stated additionally, the department of revenue advised
that it is the buyers responsibility to know if the property exists at
the time of purchase with title insurance from the seller.   Chairman
Kinsley added this was first brought to our attention this summer, the
board reviewed the case and the board on our own discussed this with
the assessor at our Board of Review and did corrections and
adjustments for the 2017 tax year as is also defined in the WI
Statutes, so we have done what we can within our limitations.  The
board wished them well with the situation.  

Approval of Disbursements:    Disbursements presented were check #
18673 through 18692 in the amount of $47,082.89 and were approved by
Barnaby/Kinsley, motion carried.

Board Concerns:     A decision on which type of snow plow should be
purchased for the truck took place, a v plow or straight blade plow.  
It was agreed to allow the crew to determine which type of plow to get
based upon the usage.  Chairman Kinsley stated this is something to
think about, a rep from Fabick Cat was at the shop today and offered
some suggestions on a newer loader with hydrostatic controls and a
mower attachment.  

There were no other board concerns; next regular meeting was set for
December 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm.   Meeting was adjourned.

                                                  Lori Van Winkle,
Clerk - November 16, 2017

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